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JustaPunter 		16-Oct 2018 Tuesday 1:29 PM (2012 days ago)
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  		Here you will learn something, definitely not waste your time reading through the whole thread and learnt nothing like some BS posts how good they are and yet shared nothing

To beat any games in casino, we must 1st understand the odds and payouts

By doing so, we can then 知己知彼百战百胜

I have attached a picture showing the odds and payouts



We are going to bet on the 3 dice total which are marked out in red

The odds are calculated by some geniuses and the payouts are generally same worldwide

For example the total number 8, the odds is 9-1 and the payout is 8-1

Meaning, in a perfect world, out of 9 rolls, the total number 8 will come out once

But the casino will only pays 8 to 1, so that is how they earn

Remember, casinos no need to be more lucky than you, they just pay you lesser than the actual odds

Let's get to the betting strategy

Normally at the table will have history on the dice rollout

So take the total number 8 for example

If this never opened for the last 9 times, you can bet on this and keep betting until it appears

This betting strategy is the same for the rest of the total number combinations

1 very interesting thing to note is 5 and 16 and any triple

The odds are the same 34-1 and payout 31-1

So, it is very stupid to bet on 5 or 16, whereas you can just bet on any triple for the same odds and payout

Also just bet the same amount until the number you are waiting for, opens

Don't double up or martingale as this will kills you

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TIPS ACADEMY 		16-Oct 2018 Tuesday 5:57 PM (2011 days ago)            #2
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  		What happens if after 16 throws, the total add-up 8 never came out? Continue betting?
I have seen continously of 70 plus times without openning 8.



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JustaPunter 		16-Oct 2018 Tuesday 6:28 PM (2011 days ago)            #3
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  		quote originally posted by TIPS ACADEMY:
What happens if after 16 throws, the total add-up 8 never came out? Continue betting?
I have seen continously of 70 plus times without openning 8.



Understand what you are driving at

It will happen but not so frequent based on the odds calculated

For me is to continue betting on that number

Once hit, then move on to bet another number

Put that "number" into the black list for that table or that day

Remember we can never beat the casino but we can beat the odds

For any number as long as the time never opened, add up with the payout is higher than the odds

We can start to bet on it



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nil 		17-Oct 2018 Wednesday 11:37 AM (2011 days ago)            #4
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  		let me share my views..
casino dun tell you the whole story or they hide the facts from you,
they always want to confuse you but gambling is all about probabilities.
below is a chart that shows you the true facts.
 

Sic Bo — Australia Rules

BET PAYS WINNING
COMBINATIONS		 PROBABILITY RETURN
Small, Big 1 105 0.486111 -0.027778
4, 17 62 3 0.013889 -0.125000
5, 16 31 6 0.027778 -0.111111
6, 15 18 10 0.046296 -0.120370
7, 14 12 15 0.069444 -0.097222
8, 13 8 21 0.097222 -0.125000
9, 12 7 25 0.115741 -0.074074
10, 11 6 27 0.125000 -0.125000
Triple 180 1 0.004630 -0.162037
Any triple 31 6 0.027778 -0.111111
Domino (one face) 11 16 0.074074 -0.111111
Domino (two faces) 6 30 0.138889 -0.027778
Any number 1,2,12 75,15,1 0.421296 -0.037037

you can see the Returns is the casino house edge (water money).
the lower the house edge means its better for us the gambler because
we are getting paid the correct amount based on our risk taken.
so the best bet is just to bet on Big/Small as it is the best value game where
the casino house edge is the lowest at 2.78% = every $10 bet, casino only take 28 cent..
 



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JustaPunter 		17-Oct 2018 Wednesday 1:02 PM (2011 days ago)            #5
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  		quote originally posted by nil:
let me share my views..
casino dun tell you the whole story or they hide the facts from you,
they always want to confuse you but gambling is all about probabilities.
below is a chart that shows you the true facts.
 

Sic Bo — Australia Rules

BET PAYS WINNING
COMBINATIONS		 PROBABILITY RETURN
Small, Big 1 105 0.486111 -0.027778
4, 17 62 3 0.013889 -0.125000
5, 16 31 6 0.027778 -0.111111
6, 15 18 10 0.046296 -0.120370
7, 14 12 15 0.069444 -0.097222
8, 13 8 21 0.097222 -0.125000
9, 12 7 25 0.115741 -0.074074
10, 11 6 27 0.125000 -0.125000
Triple 180 1 0.004630 -0.162037
Any triple 31 6 0.027778 -0.111111
Domino (one face) 11 16 0.074074 -0.111111
Domino (two faces) 6 30 0.138889 -0.027778
Any number 1,2,12 75,15,1 0.421296 -0.037037

you can see the Returns is the casino house edge (water money).
the lower the house edge means its better for us the gambler because
we are getting paid the correct amount based on our risk taken.
so the best bet is just to bet on Big/Small as it is the best value game where
the casino house edge is the lowest at 2.78% = every $10 bet, casino only take 28 cent..



Although Big/Small, the house edge is lowest, which most people thought is the best value bet

How to explain the Domino (two faces)?

It is also at the same house edge with Big/Small, but do most people bet on it?

Actually a lot of things can be learnt from this simple picture



In simple term, 1 + 1 = 2 which most people know

But we also can have 0.5 + 1.5 =2 and etc

Same thing, the 1 + 1 = 2 is what casinos want us to see

If we go in with this thinking, we will sure lose to them

Ok.. I sensed some BS in my post already 

 



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tigrep 		17-Oct 2018 Wednesday 3:44 PM (2011 days ago)            #6
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  		Its my 2 cents worth
gambling is an art , not a true science
many gamble without knowing the table illustrations , does it matters ?
No if they made 2 trips in their whole lifetime,200 trips is a different story
On the other hand , those who know , does it help them win ? 
No if they dont understand what it means, in fact some gonna lose badly because of it
Lets take baaccarat as example, lots of big n small players lose badly over this game
Reason , its the lowest margin game in the casino, and the casino lower it even more by introducing B6. some just bet Player thinking there is no house margin, which is a misconception of course.



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  		The table show what i call the price of the bet
knowing the price of the bet does not improve your chance of winning
only knowing the value whether True or Percieved can improve it.
take eg sum of 8 as asked above, does after 10 times u start betting , the
chances will improve, truly no , percieved maybe,
what 70 times or 700 times, if truly it does not at 10 , what changes after 70 or 700 times?
Will continue again when have time , paiseh



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JustaPunter 		18-Oct 2018 Thursday 10:12 AM (2010 days ago)            #8
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  		Just a small update using online sicbo program

Tried 2 ways of betting

1. By betting on the higher probability of the total number
For 100 units, the returns is 54 units (meaning lost 46 units)

2. By betting on the lower house edge of the total number
For 100 units, the returns is 95 units (meaning lost 5 units)

Both also lost to the "casino" but if bet on the lower house edge, one can lose lesser 
 



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JustaPunter 		18-Oct 2018 Thursday 1:59 PM (2010 days ago)            #9
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  		The rows which are crossed out are what I am NOT betting or monitoring






I have arranged the higher probabilities number at the top

To read the picture, let's use the top grey box or counter

The number 10 is the total of the 3 dice
The (7) is the odds
The (6) is the payout
The highlighted 0 is how many times, this number has not opened
Same color counters mean they are the mirror image of each other with no one taking higher order
Same for the rest

As long as the times a number has not opened is more than the odds, I will place bet on it *

If I only want to place 2 bets, I will follow strictly from top to bottom whichever meets the criteria (*) more

So using the picture, I will bet on 11 and 12

Every bet that I placed, I will +1 to the Bets counter at the bottom and same goes for winning the bets at the Winnings counter

For every number that is opened, I will reset it to 0 and increase (+1) for numbers that have not opened


Next picture is betting using the lower house edge




As you can see, betting on the lower house edges, still loses but lose lesser

Maybe the bets are only 100 times and not 1000 but I key in manually, so don't expect too much 

 



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  		somost ofthe timesyou won ?




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